Radio programmes discussing the Bhagavad Gita & the Upanishads

Here's a link to an interesting 1-off BBC radio 4 programme on The Bhagavad Gita: https://podtail.com/en/podcast/in-our-time-religion/the-bhagavad-gita/

Here's the same programme in which The Upanishads are discussed: https://podtail.com/en/podcast/in-our-time-religion/the-upanishads/

A number of experts discuss the texts with the show host.